Q4 2024 Earnings Conference Call Recaps: American Express (AXP)

Bespoke’s Conference Call Recaps use AI to summarize lengthy earnings calls. The commentary below is AI-generated and then edited by Bespoke for quality control. As always, none of these summaries should be construed as recommendations to buy or sell any securities, and investors should do their own research and/or consult with a financial professional before making any investment decisions.

Our latest recap available to Bespoke subscribers covers American Express’ (AXP) Q4 2024 earnings call.

American Express (AXP) is celebrated for its premium charge and credit cards, travel-related offerings, and payment solutions. Catering primarily to affluent consumers, small businesses, and global enterprises, the company provides an array of products and services designed to boost spending, borrowing, and travel experiences. Its reputation for excellence and exclusivity has appealed to millennials and Gen Z consumers, who have been a driving force of AXP’s for several quarters now. AXP closed the year with record revenues of $66 billion, up 10% on an FX-adjusted basis, driven by a surge in premium cardholder spending and holiday-season billings growth of 8%. The company saw record net card fees, 13 million new card acquisitions, and 16% Q4 spending growth among millennial and Gen Z customers. SME spending rose 3%, supported by stronger small business sentiment. Travel and entertainment spending grew nicely, with airline travel up 13% and front-of-cabin bookings up 19%. International markets grew 15%, aided by an expanded merchant network. Looking to 2025, AXP expects 8–10% revenue growth and plans to refresh 35–50 products. After topping estimates on strong spending activity, AXP shares fell more than 2% on 1/24 as guidance came in lower than investors would have liked after a solid 2024…

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Q4 2024 Earnings Conference Call Recaps: Intuitive Surgical (ISRG)

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Our latest recap available to Bespoke subscribers covers Intuitive Surgical’s (ISRG) Q4 2024 earnings call.

Intuitive Surgical (ISRG) operates within robotic-assisted surgery, best known for its da Vinci Surgical System, which helps make minimally invasive procedures possible. The company also offers complementary platforms like Ion for lung biopsies and SP for single-port surgeries. With over 2.6 million procedures performed annually using its systems, the company offers insights into advancements in surgical precision with cutting-edge technologies like force feedback and augmented reality tools. This quarter, ISRG saw 25% revenue growth as the da Vinci 5 platform saw 362 systems placed globally and 32,000 procedures performed in its first year. Ion procedures grew 78%, and SP saw 81% growth. Procedure growth reached 17% overall, led by general surgery in the US and thoracic and benign indications internationally, though bariatric procedures declined due to GLP-1 medications. Challenges in China and Europe, including regulatory and budget constraints, tempered growth. Despite beating estimates, ISRG shares fell more than 4% on 1/24 on weaker guidance…

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New York Home Prices on Top

Updated home price data from S&P CoreLogic Case Shiller was published this morning through the month of November 2024.  Below is a summary table of key results across the 20 cities/regions tracked by Case Shiller.

Most cities saw home prices decline month-over-month from October to November, with San Francisco and Seattle down the most at roughly -0.75%.  Boston, Miami, and New York were the only cities that saw meaningful gains month-over-month.

Over the prior year, 19 of 20 cities were up, with Tampa the only city down at -0.37%.

New York ranks first when it comes to year-over-year price gains at +7.32%.

After a major jump in home prices in the immediate aftermath of the pandemic, we saw a small dip in 2022 and 2023 when risk assets sold off hard.  Since early 2023 lows, New York is also the city that has seen home prices jump the most at +16.76%.

Additionally, New York is now the only city where home prices are currently at all-time highs.  On the flip side, San Francisco, Seattle, and Denver are all down more than 5% from all-time highs.

Below is a historical look at Case Shiller home prices for the 20 cities tracked along with the composite indices.  We’ve highlighted New York in green because it’s the only city where prices are at all-time highs.

A Discerning Sell-Off

In listening to discussions over the market’s reaction to the DeepSeek sell-off yesterday, the term “shoot first, ask questions later” came up repeatedly. However, in looking at the performance of various indices and individual stocks yesterday, the market’s behavior looked more discerning than indiscriminate. At the individual stock level, most stocks in the S&P 500 finished the day higher, and the weakness was concentrated to stocks that have benefitted the most from the AI rally.

The chart below shows yesterday’s performance of major US index ETFs. As you would expect, the Nasdaq 100 with its concentration in technology was the hardest hit, falling by close to 3%. The cap-weighted S&P 500 (SPY) also declined more than 1% given its large weighting in Nvidia (NVDA) and other tech companies. The equal-weight index (RSP), however, finished the day in positive territory with a modest gain.  The one index where performance was not as we expected was in small caps where the Russell 2000 (IWM) also fell nearly 1%. On a day when mega-cap tech was crushed but the majority of large-cap stocks rallied and interest rates declined, we would have expected small caps to show more strength. Given the entire Russell 2000 is smaller than NVDA, it doesn’t take much to get this area of the market to rally.  Also, if DeepSeek means that the previous costs associated with adopting AI are now dramatically lower, shouldn’t that be good for small caps which presumably have smaller budgets?

Looking at the performance of these major index ETFs over the last week, outside of QQQ, they’re all still positive, even after Monday’s decline. Additionally, they’re also all trading right within the confines of their normal trading ranges (none are oversold or overbought) which is a level of homogeneity that it feels like we don’t see much these days.

The Russell 2000’s lack of a rally came within the context of a week-long period where IWM has been unsuccessfully attempting to break back above its 50-DMA. Yesterday marked the fifth straight day where it tested that level but failed to close above it.

The mid-cap ETF (MDY) finished well off its intraday high yesterday and also traded below its 50-DMA but managed to close the day just barely above that level.

The 50-DMA also acted as support for the S&P 500. After opening right at that level in the morning, the large-cap benchmark bounced throughout the session and finished at the highs of the session.

The chart of the Equal Weight S&P 500 (RSP) over the last few days looks similar to small caps with a tight range. The only difference is that, unlike IWM, RSP has closed above its 50-DMA for each of the last four trading days.

Finally, the Nasdaq 100 (QQQ) was the biggest pain point of the major indices. It started the session below its 50-DMA and made an attempt to rally back above that level intraday but came up just short by the time the closing bell rang. While QQQ failed to take out its December high in last week’s rally, it did manage a higher high, and as long as yesterday’s decline doesn’t see much in the way of follow-through, it isn’t in imminent danger of a lower low in the short-term.

Bespoke’s Morning Lineup – 1/28/25

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Even though the S&P 500 was down 1.4% yesterday, there were 351 advancers and just 152 decliners within the index.  As shown below, Technology, Utilities, and Industrials pretty much saw all of the pain, while Consumer Staples and Health Care were actually up more than 2%.  All of the weakness yesterday came from declines in the companies that deal with producing and powering AI.

NVIDIA (NVDA) ended last week as the largest company in the world with a market cap of roughly $3.5 trillion.  It ended Monday with a market cap of $2.9 trillion and now ranks as the third largest company behind Apple (AAPL) and Microsoft (MSFT).  Since last Thursday’s close, NVIDIA (NVDA) has lost $705 billion in market cap!

The Closer – AI’s Bad Day – 1/27/25

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Looking for deeper insight into markets? In tonight’s Closer sent to Bespoke Institutional clients, we lead off with some commentary regarding the situation with Colombia and the latest earnings (page 1).  We also start out with a look at some stocks impacted by the AI hit (page 2) in addition to new home sales data (page 3). We then review the historic divergences in breadth and price in addition to the Tech and Consumer Staples sectors (page 4). We then pivot over to the record single day decline in our AI baskets (page 5) and put a bow on the topic on the following page (page 6). We finish by reviewing today’s Treasury auctions (page 7). We then finish with a recap of the latest positioning data (pages 8 – 11).

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AI Infrastructure Stocks Drop

The Nasdaq is down well over 3% as of this writing with AI hardware names driving the declines. The main AI infrastructure stock — NVIDIA (NVDA) — is down roughly 20% over the last two trading days, which equates to a drop of nearly $700 billion in market cap!  Amazingly, news that DeepSeek out of China had built a ChatGPT-like product for a fraction of the cost was actually circulating weeks ago at the end of last year. It wasn’t until this weekend, though, that the ramifications of this news started being debated heavily on social media platforms like X.

Our AI Basket is a set of 50 stocks with exposure to the AI Boom. The headline basket is further broken down into two sub-baskets: the Infrastructure basket and the Implementation basket. The former is comprised of stocks whose hardware and software lay the foundation for AI to work. These include companies that make semiconductors, data centers, cloud storage, and more. The Implementation basket, on the other hand, is made up of companies whose products are more oriented towards end-users of AI.  This includes stocks with products like AI augmented software, copilots, automated services and the like.

Although AI stocks are down broadly today, it is the Infrastructure basket that has been hit the hardest. With DeepSeek’s supposed low-cost to build its latest ChatGPT-like offering, it has brought into question the necessity for massive capex spend on chips and datacenters, and our AI Infrastructure sub-basket is down an incredible 8.2% on the day as a result! That compares to only a 1.5% decline in our Implementation sub-basket. As shown below, since the start of our AI Baskets a little over two years ago, this is easily the worst day for our Infrastructure basket relative to our Implementation basket to date, and it isn’t even close. In tonight’s Closer, we will provide a further look into the performance of the AI baskets in the wake of the DeepSeek discussion.

Q4 2024 Earnings Conference Call Recaps: SoFi Technologies (SOFI)

Bespoke’s Conference Call Recaps use AI to summarize lengthy earnings calls. The commentary below is AI-generated and then edited by Bespoke for quality control. As always, none of these summaries should be construed as recommendations to buy or sell any securities, and investors should do their own research and/or consult with a financial professional before making any investment decisions.

Our latest recap available to Bespoke subscribers covers SoFi Technologies’ (SOFI) Q4 2024 earnings call.

SoFi Technologies (SOFI) is a leading digital financial services company with offerings including personal loans, student loans, home loans, credit cards, investment services, and banking. Known for its “one-stop shop” approach, SOFI’s mission is to simplify and digitize financial services, serving over 10 million members and growing rapidly. That’s been evident through its recent diversification into fee-based revenue and partnerships, like its new role in the US Department of Treasury’s Direct Express program. To close 2024, SOFI added 785,000 new members and achieved record revenue of $739 million in the quarter and $2.6 billion for the year, driven by fee-based revenue up 74% to $970 million. Lending originations hit $7.2 billion in Q4, strengthened by $2.1 billion from its Loan Platform Business (LPB). Financial services revenue grew 84%. SOFI projects a 2025 revenue growth rate of 23-26%, targeting $3.2 billion while expanding SoFi Plus and alternative investments. Even with the better-than-expected results, SOFI shares fell more than 10% on 1/27 after guidance disappointed…

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